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Trevor & the La Leche League Battle

This is getting out of hand. I cannot believe the hoopla Trevor has created regarding his desire to be a LLL leader in Canada. For those who don’t even know who or what I’m talking about, I’ll start at the beginning, but I’m going to give the short version.

My own prejudice first. I was a LLL leader for ten years. I also happen to be lesbian married to a transman. I had three children I breastfed for years and my partner, then presenting as a woman, had a baby that he also breastfed for 2.5 years. This topic isn’t foreign to us.

Trevor came out as a man and had his breasts removed (Top Surgery… Bilateral Mastectomy). Then a few years later, with his genitals and female insides intact, decided to birth a baby. Once the son was born, he wanted to breastfeed. Trevor says he has milk, but it’s hard to say how much since he uses an enormous amount of donor milk (16 different donors by the time his son was 7 months old, so he says in his blog Milk Junkies) and from what I know of Top Surgery, most, if not all (female) breast tissue is removed and the nipple is (usually) completely removed and replaced (women’s nipples are very different than men’s, even if women are AA sized), making the milk ducts all but inaccessible. If he has any milk at all, it would almost be a miracle of science and possibly a malpractice of his plastic surgeon. To feed his son, he uses a Supplemental Nursing System (SNS) to give the donated breast milk. Trevor started going to LLL meetings and eventually, a LLL leader friend thought it’d be good for him to lead support meetings which led to his wanting to be a LLL leader and his applying. Because he is a man, he was turned down. LLL is a mother to mother organization and Trevor identifies as a man.

Question: If Trevor was born a man and was “breastfeeding”, would he be as welcome at meetings as Trevor? Or is Trevor really being seen as a woman and that is why he is so accepted? I believe it’s the latter.

Trevor’s invading women-only space does an enormous disservice to both transmen and LLL alike. Why is it so important to have every. single. place. be both male and female? Why can’t there be male-only and female-only spaces? Is being politically correct really that important? Still?  

You can read LLL’s requirements for becoming a leader here. It’s clear the roles of mother and father are delineated. Some might find this sexist and that it’s just not keeping up with the times of the science of possibilities, but can’t there be a place where mothers are permitted to just be mothers? Is it gender bias to request that women have a space where men aren’t looking at intimate areas of women’s bodies? While Trevor says he has had no problems at his group, I know there are plenty of women who would never attend meetings if he was a leader (or any other man for that matter). As it is, when guys hear that Zack and I got together at a LLL meeting they are not happy, thinking that they never had to worry about the meetings being pick up spots (not kidding; we’ve been told this on a number of occasions). Men can become Lactation Consultants or Peer Counselors and hired on a one-on-one basis, but can’t LLL just be a place for mothers to come in a group setting?

But, there are other issues that come into play that disqualify Trevor from being a LLL leader. LLL is extremely clear about not mixing causes and it doesn’t take two seconds on Trevor’s blog to see that two of his causes are milk sharing and Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Intersex (LGBTQI) issues. LLL has very strict limits on milk sharing and wrote Trevor about it, which he published here. They say:

A Leader shall never initiate the suggestion of an informal milk-donation arrangement or act as an intermediary in such a situation. If a mother wishes to discuss these options – which may include donating expressed milk, wet-nursing or cross-nursing – the Leader’s role is to provide information about the benefits and risks, as mentioned above, including the limitations of home sterilization of expressed breast milk.

Regarding being a specialty leader such as an LGBTQI leader, they say:

I would also like to address your interest in leading an LGBT LLL meeting. I think that it is important for you to know that we do not accredit specialty Leaders. So for example Leaders often say that they need a working mother as a Leader for their Group because she can relate to the mothers in the population the Group serves - I would disagree - what qualifies a Leader to relate to those mothers is her experience of mothering, not her experience of separation. Similarly in this case it is the experience of mothering through breastfeeding which qualifies a Leader to help others. Any Leader can help anyone who is interested in breastfeeding. LLL has accredited a number of lesbian mothers as Leaders. They lead Groups for all mothers.

While LLL initially turned Trevor down (in the letter above, they have since written a statement saying they will look at the issue that has never been presented to them before. This is where I get testy.

A letter of “support” was written that could be cut & pasted or signed and sent to LLL and that letter began:

As the world's most important breastfeeding support organization, it is vital that you include all kinds of breastfeeding families. Regardless of any other issues, LLL should support breastfeeding relationships. I was very disappointed to hear that a transgender dad in Canada was told not to apply for leadership because of his gender identity.

Excuse me? LLL supports ALL families. LLL does not exclude any families from their support, knowledge or information. LLL also did NOT tell Trevor not to apply for leadership. It explained to Trevor why he was not a good fit for leadership, the same way they tell women every single day why they are also not a good fit, either. Some who apply are; most who apply are not. And this is just how the letter began! In this angry tone. What the heck?! This makes it sound like LLL is a vile organization that has unreasonable concerns about trans issues, namely transphobia when, by every bit of correspondence that Trevor shared (without LLL’s permission, I might add), you can see that LLL is extremely respectful and kind. Why Trevor and his spouse decided to write the letter in this tone is beyond me, but it has pissed me off more than any other aspects of the whole topic.

I’ve said in various threads around the Net that if Trevor wants to lead the specialty breastfeeding groups, he will be amazing at it! No, he doesn’t just need to limit himself to LGBTQI groups or milk sharing or SNS groups, but those can definitely be his focus and forte just as each of us midwives also tend to have specialties, too.

Trevor is definitely traversing new ground and it’s awesome that he is. It needs to be tread, but I don’t believe it needs to be tromped on through LLL’s land. I would love to see him start his own organization and I would be one of the greatest supporters. I am all for trans procreation and breast supplementation… fabulous! Zack and I are both on the same page with this issue.

Leave LLL alone, Trevor and others; find another avenue for your energies… something positive and joyful. We have enough fighting in our lives. I don’t believe we always have to shove ourselves into middle of the road organizations, especially ones that are single sex only spaces.  Let’s create something for us… just for us… and show the world how great we are and how strong we can be. There’s more than enough to go around.

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In this day and age of cultural awareness, I feel we tend to take political correctness too far in many areas. Are we really SO afraid of offending one person/group that we will risk alienating many many more? The answer, unfortunately, often appears to be yes.

LLL should be a safe place for breastfeeding women to come together without judgement or self-consciousness; many women would not feel a male presence would facilitate that type of environment. There is nothing stopping men from forming their own breastfeeding support groups if they wish.

Additionally, to make this a LGBTQI issue is to lose sight of the real (IMO) point of the matter: LLL has the right to NOT accept men as leaders. Period. It should not matter if that man used to identify as a woman or was born with male physiology. I agree 100% with your point:

"If Trevor was born a man and was “breastfeeding”, would he be as welcome at meetings as Trevor? Or is Trevor really being seen as a woman and that is why he is so accepted? I believe it’s the latter."

Couldn't have put that better myself.

September 14, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMamaSchriefer

Totally in agreement.

September 14, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterVanessa

Dear Navelgazing Midwife,

LLL does not actually define itself as a women-only space. Fiona Audy, chair of LLLC's board, wrote in a public letter (that you can find at http://s.lllc.ca/files/DearFriends.pdf) that the organization appreciates me as a member, while recognizing me as a man. LLL currently welcomes anyone to meetings who is trying to breastfeed, regardless of gender. I know of other transgender men who have also attended meetings. I think that this is a fantastic start! I do, however, believe that trans guys who are qualified should be accepted at all levels of the organization.

I know that I am not perceived as a woman at meetings! I have a beard and a deep voice, and I always "pass" (for lack of a better word) as male. During the intro section of each meeting I attend, I say a few brief sentences about my situation. I explain that I was born female but transitioned and that I am breastfeeding. Other members have always been very supportive of me, perhaps in part because they realize that I'm a bit nervous myself when explaining my personal gender history to strangers!

I am capable of not "mixing causes" at meetings. I understand that it is inappropriate to discuss milksharing or activism in such a setting. Many LLL Leaders pursue such activities outside of LLL without any trouble.

I find it easy, in a way, for you to write this post and reference your own transgender partner to show that you have experience with my situation. However, your partner transitioned AFTER having breastfed. I wonder if you would feel differently about this if your partner had transitioned and was then looking for breastfeeding support.

The way that you have downplayed the importance of the milk that I produce for my son is personally very painful to me. I believe that every drop of milk I make is worthwhile for my child. The one time that we did a weigh before and after a feeding, it seemed that I had made about 1/4 of what he ate. This is not to even touch on the importance of the breastfeeding relationship itself, the good it does for bonding with my baby and all sorts of other things, including his normal teeth and jaw development.

To clarify a few basic facts: if a surgeon were to remove ALL of someone's breast tissue, he would be left with an extremely sunken-looking chest (similar to a drastic mastectomy for cancer treatment). So, yes, I have some breast tissue still, and I have a male-appearing chest. I experienced engorgement when my milk came in, and I continue to be able to SPRAY milk. My surgeon used the peri-areolar technique, where an incision is made around the areola, and the nipples are never removed. Rather than "malpractice of a plastic surgeon" as you suggest, my procedure was performed by a surgeon who has been awarded fellowships in sex reassignment surgery and has received advanced training in breast surgery. He is excellent.

Trevor

September 14, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTrevor

I am really surprised and saddened. Where is the accept and be accepted aspect we should have for each other not only as an LGBTQ community but also as humans? Was research not done before this was posted? There are, frankly, some incorrect statements here but I will let those in question correct them. The overall tone of this blog post certainly does not come across as particularly friendly. And that bothers me.

I tell you what I really hope for - is that someday ANYONE of ANY gender who breastfeeds can apply for and become a breastfeeding counselor whether with LLLI or Breastfeeding USA. It is time to stop the segregation. Men have glandular tissue. They can and do breastfeed - not, perhaps in our society, but in others. Maybe someday acceptance will be universal...maybe.

I have a problem with it for a totally selfish reason.

I have PCOS and I had major supply issues. I used a SNS with formula, and multiple pre- and post-feeding weights showed only the formula was getting transferred. I'd pump after feeding for 45 minutes and get 1/3 of an ounce. If I had gone to a meeting and seen that a man was able to produce more breastmilk than I could, I'd have flipped my shit. If he's just part of the group I could try to avoid him, but as the leader? I'd never have gone back. Women like me need that help the most. We already feel like massive failures. Throwing a successfully-lactating male leader in our faces HURTS.

September 14, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterManapan

Trevor identifies himself as a man. He does not identify himself as a mother, or a woman. A man. A father.

La Leche League is about Mothering. Not Fathering.

September 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterHeather

They're "La Leche", meaning "The Milk" -- not La Madre League.
If you look up Mothering in the dictionary, you'll find that, as a verb, it means: "To bring up (a child) with care and affection. To look after kindly and protectively." You may wish to exclude Trevor based on his gender identification -- but in so doing, you are excluding a parent who is dedicated to breastfeeding.

September 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterElla

Hear, hear, Ella. By that argument, Heather, Trevor couldn't even be a member of LLL. Thankfully you do not speak for the organization.

September 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDarlene

It seems to me that Trevor is having a lot of trouble deciding who he/she is. Trevor wants to be a man yet wants also to do two things men biologically cannot do -- carry a pregnancy to term and to breastfeed. Trevor wants to be part of a traditionally female society [how many male members of La Leche are there?] There is serious derangement here. In the name of political correctness we err too much on accepting every kind of abnormality as normal.

This is one of the reasons I do not support this entire madness about transsexualism and think it is a form of mental illness [and I think that doctors who assist "transsexuals" to mutilate themselves to achieve new sexual "identities" are on a par with Nazi "physicians like Mengele and need THEIR heads examined]

September 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterAntigonos CNM

Just on the idea of "cause mixing:" For people who are both trans and nursing, these causes are mixed whether we like it or not. Its not a decision we made, its the reality, the normal of our experiences. You say that LLL supports all families, but when I needed nursing help they couldn't support me because there was no one with any expertise in my particular issue. So no, they don't support all families. Because they don't "mix causes." Which means they don't recognize when my reality as a nursing person and my family's reality don't fit within their way of assisting. Trying to compartmentalize causes acts as though our lives can be portioned out into separate boxes, as if our experiences don't all flow together creating a singular different whole.

LLL is inadequate and unsupportive of families with birthing/nursing parents that aren't women. Their statements of support are belied by the fact that I and many like me have found nothing but alienating advice that treated our lives as quirky choices. Do you measure support by the words of the organization, or the results of their actions? What I see you arguing here is that LLL should be allowed to remain inadequate at assisting those of us who have unique nursing issues. Why? Because you don't like the "tone" of Trevor's support letter.

September 17, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterD.

D: To YOU, it seems like it's only the tone, but it doesn't seem like that to me. I appreciate your sharing your experience with LLL, but believe they *can* assist transfolk who want to nurse simply because breastfeeding is breastfeeding is breastfeeding (nursing is nursing is nursing). If transmen want to call it chestfeeding and call it something else and believe it's something else, then I can see they/you might see how LLL wouldn't be able to attend to your needs, but that isn't LLL's fault. They give breastfeeding help and that is clearly their mission. Is it the belief that not only should men be permitted to be leaders, but all verbiage be changed to "breastfeeding and chestfeeding," too?

I haven't ever sat down with a transman who breastfed so I don't know first (second?)-hand what the issues are, so I am speaking from a place of ignorance; I acknowledge that. Trevor talks about nursing like it's typical breastfeeding with milk sharing and an SNS thrown in for good measure. These things I know about very well. If they are difference, I would love to know about it... to learn.

Even though I'm a midwife, I won't ever have a trans*family as a midwifery client, but I would love to have a monitrice or doula trans*family as a client and want to be as knowledgable as possible. I am the first to say I have a lot to learn. (Not that I still don't have my own beliefs. ;) )

September 17, 2012 | Registered CommenterNavelgazing Midwife

Antigonos CNM gets it completely backwards. As a Midwife living in Jerusalem, she at least ought to know more about Holocaust history. The Nazis slapped pink triangles on LGBT folks just as they did yellow stars on Jews ... and exterminated all they could find. It's offensive to cry Nazi on LGBT people who are receiving treatment, even if you don't agree with that.

In fact, Antigonos, since you're now trying now to exterminate trans people by negating their experience and condition, aren't you more like the famous Doctor you cite? It sounds like YOU are having trouble categorizing Trevor. Why make that HIS problem?

September 17, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterIan

I think it would be different If Trevor identified as a woman.

The argument about Jack Newman is hollow he is a MD, and IBCLC; he is not trying to become a League leader “Mother to mother volunteer support".

Like Dr Newman if Trevor wants to help women with breastfeeding he should become a CLC or an IBCLC to help others.

Millions of mothers don't qualify to become a LLL because their personal breastfeeding experience does not fit the criteria. We don't try to change their criteria; we do what we can to help mothers in other places.

Trevor doesn’t take it so personally your rejection. Work towards taking the CLC course or to be an IBCLC...

September 19, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRuth

Having a close friend who is transender (female to male), know what he has gone thru just to be able to identify himself as a male legally, it really disturbs me that somebody is going to change to male then go ahead and have a baby and still live as a male?!?!? My friend has undergone psych eval after eval to PROVE that he really is a male and feels that living as a male will better him as a person.....all because of situations like this! NOT RIGHT!! and as a mother of three wonderful children and having breast feeding issues myself, I wish I would of been turned to barb's website a loooong time ago where I have learned sooo much! Barb, you are a wonderful person who has birthing and babies in your blood. You bring a great service to women and babies and you are doing a wonderful service!! LOVE YOU BARB!

September 19, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMizAngie

Yeah, Zack still has major issues with Trevor pushing himself into a woman's space, saying that if he was trying to get himself into a MALE space, he'd be all for it... that there are tons of places transmen need help with getting into... that trying to STAY in female places is going backwards, does nothing but keeping people seeing the transman as a woman... low voice, facial hair or whatever. I totally agree. It's an enormous disservice to transmen, what Trevor is doing... not moving trans* rights ahead at all.

September 20, 2012 | Registered CommenterNavelgazing Midwife

Barb, You said exactly what i was trying to formulate and understand, but might not have come across the right way on your facebook page.

If a trans man is fighting to be let into the world of men that is one fight that must be supported in my head. it's so confusing to have a trans man now fight to be again accepted in a women to women support group and be a leader in that group. confusing the issue for the rest of us working to make sure there is a place for trans gender families.

September 20, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRuth

Barb and Ruth, you said exactly what I was trying to say and I thank you for that. I bet it has been a judgemental rode for Zach and what Trevor is doing sure doesn't help any trans. And then for Trevor to make such a public issue about it... My close friend has such a daily struggle living and being accepted as a man. Well actually you would never know that he used to be a female by just looking at him but he lives in fear that somebody knows. He knows that he is who he should be now and has had a struggle to get there but stunts like Trevor has/is pulled/pulling here is setting the transgender community back from where they have worked so hard to get.

September 20, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMizAngie

You’re describing trans people who live in stealth and fear, required to conform rigidly to gender-binary psych evaluations. You’re telling Trevor to conform to those terms of reference. “Trans people are forced to live this way! It’s awful, and Trevor should, too!” Please look up “Stockholm Syndrome”. I think this applies.

What about people who don’t “pass” easily? What about gender-fluid people who don’t fit the male/female binaries? Have you known people that committed suicide for these reasons? Your silence will not protect you, or them. It will take young transmen and women DISAGREEING to be silent about their gender fluidity, and DISAGREEING they have to submit to draconian psych evaluations in order to transition.

Some gay men in the AIDS crisis realized that silence equaled death. Remember “we’re here, we’re queer, get used to it”? As more visible activism emerged, research and resources were the result. I always wonder that trans people aren't about thirty years behind lesbian and gay activism and acceptance.

Please remember that it’s not a “stunt”; we are a real family. I’m asking you to take a step into this situation with empathy, as if we were right now friends sitting together over tea, maybe after a wonderful day at a Pride parade. Trevor and I got married and wanted a family and by the grace of our bodies we have a wonderful boy. We are breastfeeding our child as part of an attachment-parenting approach. Trevor was helped by LLL and was asked to volunteer with them. Then the national office shut the process down. We are receiving wonderful support from many people. No, we don’t fit gender-normative roles. But I don’t think it serves us, or the next generation of genderfluid people, to be silent about our lives. Show me the Pride, people!

September 20, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterIan

I resent the comments about 'pushing into women's spaces and (implied) roles'. My story does not have to match that of any other trans person to be valid and worthy of celebration. I had chest surgery at 18, then began hormone therapy at 20. In the early years of my transition, I felt I needed to eliminate certain aspects of my 'self' in order to conform completely to to the gender that most accurately represented my spirit. I lived in fear of being outed or not passing. It was like an intense version of high school and puberty all over again. Often the trans community itself perpetuates these attitudes of fear, hiding, and the importance of fitting in at the cost of losing part of who we are. I always wanted a child of my own. Though I identify as male, I posses mothering instincts. This does not contradict my 'self' - this aspect of me makes the person I am that much more unique and my life experience more rich. My partner, who is an anatomical male, and I decided to build our family when I was 29 years old. I stopped taking testosterone and became pregnant within a few months. I'm now 31 and our son is beautiful, healthy, and happy. I am not antisocial, but I'm a bit introverted and lead a quiet life. My journey through pregnancy and childbirth was never hidden, but I didn't choose to actively publicize it, either. I had a natural water birth at home, attended by a wonderful midwife, who is now a friend for life. I applaud Trevor and his family for sharing their story with the world. Why does the trans community continue to try to silence gender variant experiences that differ from their own? How does my journey have the power to 'make you look bad', unless you allow it to affect your trajectory? My birth experience was beautiful and cathartic. It strengthened me and added purpose to my life. I mother my child, even though he calls me daddy. I found community, awesome friends, and loving support in the birthing world - I identify as male - and I gave birth, drawing on the strength of the whole of my 'self', beyond gender. LLL and other 'women's only' birth and breastfeeding spaces are only designated as such because society has, until recently, refused to challenge the binary. I am not confused, I am not mentally ill. I have been hurt, rejected, severely misunderstood - but I will not bury the experience of the most incredible journey I've ever taken to accommodate fear and ignorance. I'm not 'setting my trans brothers back' by conceiving and giving birth to my child. I honor all experiences on the gender spectrum. There are certainly some narrow, bigoted, hateful people who will use my story (and Trevor's, among others), to further villainize the trans community, but to blame and condemn one another is not a productive response - unity is. To achieve this, we need to celebrate our diversity and present a united front. I couldn't help but notice the opening quote on the Navelgazing Midwife's FB page - "Do I contradict myself? Very well I contradict myself (I am large, I contain multitudes.) - Walt Whitman.... I am not contradicting my self or my gender by choosing to allow my body to be a vessel that brings new life into the world, I am living a whole and authentic life - that is something to celebrate, and Trevor is a brave and genuine pioneer, because he is doing just that.

September 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterBenjamin

I'm not a therapist so can't comment on the mental illness or not of a "gender variant" person, but it certainly isn't something I can get a grasp on. I find they/them/theirs confused, angry and looking for any reason to lash out at society they can, starting with pronouns and moving out from there. I've also watched as, over and over, a gender variant person is like a bisexual... a way station to one or a binary other... just doing it slower than others.

How are people supposed to figure out gender variant folks when they can't even wrap their heads around trans*people?! I shudder wondering what's next down the line of inventions people will say they are that we'll have to "embrace" and force the masses to accept.

It's so damn hard for my spouse already. Why do you have to make it so much harder?! (There, I said it.)

September 21, 2012 | Registered CommenterNavelgazing Midwife

There needs to be some explanation about my attitudes and feelings. For those that don’t know my Navelgazing ways, this is part of who I am, exploring my Self, even the more difficult parts… the not so pretty parts.

Zack and I have been together for 26 years now, but he just came out as a transman not quite a year and a half ago. I continue identifying as lesbian while supporting his transition to male. My own transition has been extremely difficult emotionally. Writing this brings tears once again. I’ve been in intense therapy, both group and individual and have dealt with depression that had me in “sleep away camp” last winter.

I want nothing more than to be done with my transition with Zack’s transition. I wish I was 100% on board with everything. I wish I was the Perfect Wife who was able to be the #1 cheerleader and could be first in line for every single change Zack wants to do, but that isn’t what’s happened. Instead, I’ve been the one to drag my heels, been the one to be dragged, kicking and screaming along the way towards his physical changes that, once done, I’ve settled into pretty easily.

As a lifelong activist who came out as lesbian at 17-years old in the (female) trans community, I am shocked at my own feelings and behaviors. I started the transZACK blog to write about them and I am so embarrassed by my thoughts and feelings I can’t even write about many of them until they have passed. What’s wrong with me? Who am I? I can’t figure it out.

I wish nothing more than to be someone who is on the front lines of all transfolks, especially those that will never pass and who are genderfluid… they probably need the most compassion and love of all, right? But, that isn’t where I am. Yet. I wonder when I will get there. If I will get there. I like to believe I will. I just know I am not there yet.

So, there is a lot more to the “Trevor” story than I have been able to verbalize up until this point. I know my exact experience is rare, but my feelings about transfolks are not unique; I have heard from many others who struggle with trans* issues, too. I write for all of us. I hope that as I work through all of this confusion, I can find some clarity that includes the translove I know I have hidden inside me somewhere.

September 21, 2012 | Registered CommenterNavelgazing Midwife

I find myself still learning and growing when it comes to transgender concerns. Ngm Is helping me with that by sharing her and Zack's story.

On Trever and LLL, I agree with LLL. I believe Trever and all trans people should be treated as the gender that they identify with/ are presenting as. I am exceptionally comfortable nursing uncovered in front of a woman only group. Throw in a man, even a man who once was female, and I am going to cover up, be more concerned with what is showing, and I will not be nearly as comfortable. I will very much be uncomfortable. I would feel like I was NIP, not in, the safety and, acceptance I have found in LLL meetings. There is no way a man is checking my latch. I also actively seek female medical providers, and only see men when no female is available. My body, my choice. Since Trever is legally and physically a man, I would treat him like any other man and ask for a woman.

September 24, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterWendy Lou

Every baby deserves a breastfeed. Good for you Trevor!

October 10, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterLiz

Here's what I don't get: I agree that women who have a problem with having a male LLL leader should have options, but, it's not like Trevor would be the only LLL leader in his area, right? Or, if he is, that's the organization's problem for not recruiting more leaders in his area, not his problem for wanting to be a leader. Can't the women who are uncomfortable with having a male leader simply go to a different meeting? I think there is room for the organization to both stand behind Trevor *and* give breastfeeding women options so that they feel comfortable with the support they receive.

October 17, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTurnAroundBrightEyes

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